{"id":953,"date":"2025-09-23T14:49:03","date_gmt":"2025-09-23T21:49:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/globalfutures.asu.edu\/essa\/?p=953"},"modified":"2025-10-28T10:18:36","modified_gmt":"2025-10-28T17:18:36","slug":"healing-loss-and-grief-in-conservation-essa-spotlight-on-risa-aria-schnebly","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/globalfutures.asu.edu\/essa\/spotlight\/healing-loss-and-grief-in-conservation-essa-spotlight-on-risa-aria-schnebly\/","title":{"rendered":"Healing Loss and Grief in Conservation: ESSA Spotlight on Risa Aria Schnebly"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-bootstrap-blocks-container container mb-2\">\n\t\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>By Clara Hall, September 2025<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This section of the site is focused on showcasing ESSA scholars (students, alumni, faculty, and community members) making a positive impact within their research community, centering on diverse ways of knowing in their research, and sharing their knowledge and expertise. If you have a research product, event, or opinion you would like to share please contact chall29@asu.edu. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-content-justification-right is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-0ea2a009 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;padding-top:0;padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--uds-size-2);padding-bottom:0;padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--uds-size-2)\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignright size-medium is-resized\" style=\"margin-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--uds-size-2);margin-right:0;margin-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--uds-size-2);margin-left:0\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/globalfutures.asu.edu\/essa\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2025\/09\/risa-flowers-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-954\" style=\"width:384px;height:auto\" title=\"ml-4\" srcset=\"https:\/\/globalfutures.asu.edu\/essa\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2025\/09\/risa-flowers-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/globalfutures.asu.edu\/essa\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2025\/09\/risa-flowers-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/globalfutures.asu.edu\/essa\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2025\/09\/risa-flowers-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https:\/\/globalfutures.asu.edu\/essa\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2025\/09\/risa-flowers.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Background<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Risa Aria Schnebly is a fifth-year PhD candidate at Arizona State University whose research sits at the intersection of ecology, psychology, and storytelling. Her journey into academia is marked by resilience and personal transformation: after dropping out of UC Davis to spend the last few months of her mother\u2019s life in Mexico, Risa eventually returned to finish her undergraduate degree&nbsp; in Arizona. She continued onto her PhD at ASU, where she&nbsp; found her calling in science writing and research. Now, through her dissertation and creative work, she explores the emotional landscape of conservation\u2013\u2013particularly the grief experienced by those working to save endangered species.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Research Focus: Centering Eco-Grief<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Risa\u2019s PhD research began with an interest in de-extinction\u2013\u2013the idea of bringing back lost species\u2013\u2013and how it might shape public attitudes about conservation and ecological loss. Early interviews with undergraduates revealed a startling gap: most hadn\u2019t thought much about extinction at all.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThey didn\u2019t really grasp the depth of the crisis that\u2019s unfolding. That was depressing in its own way, and it made me rethink what I was doing.\u201d This prompted Risa to pivot toward a question much closer to her heart: grief. Not abstract grief, but the kind felt by endangered-species conservationists who live loss every day.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">She\u2019s now interviewed around 30 conservationists working with species across the extinction spectrum, from Hawaiian birds and snails to Mexican wolves, black-footed ferrets, and vaquitas. She wanted to understand whether they experience grief in relation to the species they work with, and how that grief affects them. What she found is that the depth of grief isn\u2019t&nbsp; necessarily tied to how endangered a species is. \u201cIt\u2019s not just about the level of endangerment. It\u2019s about people\u2019s individual connections,\u201d she explained.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cOr a lot of people had to witness, or even be the cause of, suffering or death. Like some people told stories about having to translocate birds in Hawaii, knowing it\u2019s traumatic for the birds, or releasing ferrets into the wild knowing many won\u2019t survive. One person even had to euthanize the second-to-last frog of its species. Those moments carry immense weight.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Insights and Methods<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Risa\u2019s interviews often moved into uncharted territory. She approached conservationists with questions about their careers and philosophies before easing into harder topics, like loss and grief.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cAt least ten people cried during these interviews,\u201d she said. \u201cI think for many of them, no one had ever asked [about grief] before. They were just glad someone did.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Her findings highlight the hidden emotional labor of conservation work: grief that often goes unspoken in a field where objectivity and detachment are valued.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Beyond the Dissertation: Creating Space for Grief<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Risa isn\u2019t just documenting eco-grief, she is experimenting with ways to create space for it. \u201cI want to make artistic eco-memorials, things like collaging workshops at conferences. It feels like an accessible way for non-artists to process grief together, and to honor what\u2019s being lost.\u201d She has also trained with the Good Grief Network and is working to connect with others in this space, though she emphasizes it\u2019s still an emerging field.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Mentorship and Writing<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Risa credits her committee and mentors for encouraging her to follow this path, including ASU professors Ben Minteer and Beckett Sterner, as well as conservation psychologist Susan Clayton and nonfiction writer Alison Hawthorne Deming. She is writing her dissertation as a nonfiction book, weaving research with personal narrative.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Writing has been a second thread in her career. Alongside her PhD, she works as a science writer for ASU News and recently completed the AAAS Mass Media Fellowship, reporting on science for a local newspaper in Washington State. She also co-hosts the podcast \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/scichronicles.buzzsprout.com\/\">SciChronicles<\/a>,\u201d helping scientists share personal stories and connect through storytelling.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Looking Forward: Disrupting Academia<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For Risa, grief is both a personal reality and a political act. \u201cGrief signals that life is valuable. Public displays of grief, like the AIDS Memorial Quilt, are political. They say: this matters. Eco-grief works the same way. It\u2019s not about animals over people, or anything like that. It\u2019s about expanding our ability to grieve all of it: other humans, other species, entire ecosystems, and recognizing grief as an extension of love and care.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;Through her work, she hopes to broaden conversations in conservation, challenge taboos around grief in science, and create spaces where loss is acknowledged instead of hidden. \u201cCultivating the capacity for grief is really about cultivating the capacity for care\u2014for people, for other beings, for the world we live in.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The Role of ESSA in Shaping Research<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Risa\u2019s involvement with the Earth Systems Science for the Anthropocene (ESSA) program has been transformative. ESSA\u2019s emphasis on diversity, justice, and culturally informed research expanded her vision of what is possible in science. The network provided a supportive space where her work made sense and felt valued, and mentors like Edauri Navarro-P\u00e9rez offered examples of living and working with integrity. \u201cIf I had joined ESSA earlier in my PhD, I would have been doing very different work, because it expanded the idea of what\u2019s possible and what\u2019s acceptable. It showed me there\u2019s a network of people who care about the same things I care about and a lot more.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>A Journey That\u2019s All Her Own<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Risa\u2019s path to ASU wasn\u2019t a typical student narrative, but it\u2019s one she views with warmth and clarity. Many would call her journey unconventional, or even challenging, but Risa prefers to see it as deeply meaningful. She describes her academic and personal journey as a weaving of grief, conservation, and memory, a commitment to bringing emotion into science, and to creating space for healing and connection.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Want to learn more about Risa\u2019s work or connect about eco-grief and conservation? Check out her <a href=\"https:\/\/risaariaschnebly.wixsite.com\/risa-aria\">website<\/a>, her podcast \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/scichronicles.buzzsprout.com\/\">SciChronicles<\/a>,\u201d or reach out for collaboration.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":89,"featured_media":955,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-953","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"uds_featured_image":{"id":955,"alt_text":"","caption":"","description":"","media_type":"image","media_details":{"width":1200,"height":1600,"file":"2025\/09\/risa-flowers-1.jpg","filesize":241998,"sizes":{"medium":{"file":"risa-flowers-1-225x300.jpg","width":225,"height":300,"mime-type":"image\/jpeg","filesize":19274,"source_url":"https:\/\/globalfutures.asu.edu\/essa\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2025\/09\/risa-flowers-1-225x300.jpg"},"large":{"file":"risa-flowers-1-768x1024.jpg","width":768,"height":1024,"mime-type":"image\/jpeg","filesize":139527,"source_url":"https:\/\/globalfutures.asu.edu\/essa\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2025\/09\/risa-flowers-1-768x1024.jpg"},"thumbnail":{"file":"risa-flowers-1-150x150.jpg","width":150,"height":150,"mime-type":"image\/jpeg","filesize":7589,"source_url":"https:\/\/globalfutures.asu.edu\/essa\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2025\/09\/risa-flowers-1-150x150.jpg"},"medium_large":{"file":"risa-flowers-1-768x1024.jpg","width":768,"height":1024,"mime-type":"image\/jpeg","filesize":139527,"source_url":"https:\/\/globalfutures.asu.edu\/essa\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2025\/09\/risa-flowers-1-768x1024.jpg"},"1536x1536":{"file":"risa-flowers-1-1152x1536.jpg","width":1152,"height":1536,"mime-type":"image\/jpeg","filesize":266801,"source_url":"https:\/\/globalfutures.asu.edu\/essa\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2025\/09\/risa-flowers-1-1152x1536.jpg"}},"image_meta":{"aperture":"0","credit":"","camera":"","caption":"","created_timestamp":"0","copyright":"","focal_length":"0","iso":"0","shutter_speed":"0","title":"","orientation":"0","keywords":[]}},"post":953,"source_url":"https:\/\/globalfutures.asu.edu\/essa\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2025\/09\/risa-flowers-1.jpg"},"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.5 - 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